Re: passwd hashing algorithm

Louis Taber (LTABER@pimacc.pima.edu)
13 Apr 1995 11:46:22 -0700

>* David Faron Stagner (stagda@sys1.ic.ncs.com) writes

>I'm with der Mouse on this... the current state of crypt() and
>password hashing in unix is inexcusable.  
..... stuff removed
>
>So what we're left with is replacing crypt() with something decently
>strong.  How about triple DES?  At this point in the game, triple DES
>seems as strong as anything available, and certainly far stronger than
>the existing scheme.  It also would not change the length of the
>passwords on file or the basic authentication mechanism.  Of course,
>this still doesn't solve the problem of weak passwords (which is still
>a basic attack mechanism for crack), but it would make
>minimum-password schemes much more effective, and increase the value
>of good passwords substantially.  
>
>Someone tell me if I'm completely off-base here.
>-- 
>* David Faron Stagner
>* National Computer Systems           david_stagner@ic.ncs.com
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My take on this is that encryption is NOT the way to go.   This would 
mean that there exists a key that could decrypt the entire password file.
On this count triple DES is no better than regular DES.  From my 
understanding the MD5 would work well.  It is non-reversible.

Louis
 
Louis Taber                                                   ltaber@pima.edu
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